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    Hello, I have owned my Stinger-I for a little over 1.5 years now but this is my first interaction with the Cam Heads forum. I am a hobby woodworker and I have been a computer geek by trade for many years. The addition of the CNC machine incorporates both of my major interests into one world.
    The reason I am posting is to share the remote keyboard option that I used myself for my Stinger-I. As everyone here knows how frustrating it is to have to run to the terminal every time you want to execute a function. I have a wireless keyboard but between memorizing all of the shortcut keys and the keyboard being at the machine when I want it at the terminal or visa versa and having to go to the terminal to mouse click a macro button, I went on my own quest.
    I purchased a programmable 24-key control pad made by Genovation. Model CP24 and they also have a 48-key model CP48. I paid $85 for the CP24 on Amazon. Each key can be programmed to simulate any key of a regular keyboard or each key can be programmed to perform a macro of up to 220 characters. I programmed many of the buttons to launch the exact same macro that the WinCNC software uses for the on screen mouse clickable buttons. I felt that if I wanted to change the function of any macro within WinCNC I would only have to modify it in one place and then both the on-screen and keypad would both be updated.
    The CP24 does also offer the option to apply a 2nd function to each key giving the CP24 the ability of virtually having 48 keys of function. You do have to use one key as the function mode key (or shift key) to utilize this option. I have not found the need for it "yet". Both functions of each key share the 220 characters of memory so if you would decide to use the 2nd function you would only have 110 characters for each key but that is still more than plenty from what I have found so far.
    The software is easy to use and it comes with a PDF manual to explain how it works. They also supply an excel and a word file to create the button labels with. I copied and pasted the bitmap files that CAMaster loads into WinCNC and resized them to fit the button cells in the provided Word document. Some I created myself. Not hard at all to do. I did have to use a USB extension cable as the cable it comes with is only 6ft long. The provided cable has a RJ-45 connector on the keypad end so the extension cable is the way to go as the RJ-45 end is not all that common on a USB type cable.
    I would be glad to share the keypad file I have created if anyone is interested.

    Dave
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    Dave Cook
    CAMaster Stinger 1
    Hobby Woodworker
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    Thanks for sharing the info Dave! Glad it's been working for you!

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    • #3

      Dave's post reminded me that I had one of these from back in the "blue" days that I never was able to get the arrow keys working properly. With help from him as to the arrow key settings that I had muffed, I got mine going. I have some more work to do on the key labels, but good enough to test.

      The Genovation doesn't have the DRO or the MPG wheel like the WinCNC version ( http://www.wincnc.net/parts.php bottom of page) but it should get me going til I order one.
      Attached Files
      Gary Campbell
      Servo Control Upgrades
      GCnC411@gmail.com
      https://www.youtube.com/user/Islaww1/videos

      "There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those that understand binary logic, and those who don't"

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      • #4

        That a cool product Dave, thanks for sharing. I need to get one at some point.

        I've been using this thing for some years for design work: http://www.chproducts.com/Multi-Func...v13-d-724.html

        It's a similar thing, basically a bunch of programmable buttons (the CH one is geared towards gamers but works for whatever). The one you got is much more compact. Nice!
        2014 Stinger II (SR-44)
        1.7 kW Spindle w/ speed control, Performance kit, VCarve Pro
        www.cosmos-industrial.com
        >Pen Marking Tools >CNC Drag Knife

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        • #5

          How do you program it to press a button on the WinCNC screen? I'm thinking buttons that have macros but no keyboard shortcut. Thanks
          2014 Stinger II (SR-44)
          1.7 kW Spindle w/ speed control, Performance kit, VCarve Pro
          www.cosmos-industrial.com
          >Pen Marking Tools >CNC Drag Knife

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          • #6

            I think I figure it out. You can program in keystrokes like you're typing them into the command line. Thanks
            2014 Stinger II (SR-44)
            1.7 kW Spindle w/ speed control, Performance kit, VCarve Pro
            www.cosmos-industrial.com
            >Pen Marking Tools >CNC Drag Knife

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            • #7

              Hi,
              Sorry to bring this back to the top but I bought one of these Genovation Keypads and I, like Gary, am having an issue with the arrow keys. They work fine for the incremental moves but either don't function at all on the fast,medium, and slow modes or go berserk depending on the settings I have chosen.
              Any help would be appreciated.
              Andy

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              • #8

                Andy...
                Dave hooked me up with the correct code to place in the arrow keys parameters. I don't have that here in my office, but will try to remember to get it from the shop tomorrow.

                Can I add a bit of humor here? Why is it that all the guys with pendant control want a PC and all the guys with a PC want a pendant???
                Gary Campbell
                Servo Control Upgrades
                GCnC411@gmail.com
                https://www.youtube.com/user/Islaww1/videos

                "There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those that understand binary logic, and those who don't"

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                • #9

                  The pendant is just an extra for me. My computer setup is too awkward to drag the keyboard over continually. The pendant surely does not replace the computer for me. :)

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                  • #10

                    Dave hooked me up. It was as simple as selecting the right mode "SEPERATE UP CODES" and the switch "THIS MACRO CAN AUTO-REPEAT".
                    Thanks again Gary and Dave!

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                    • #11

                      Andy...
                      Glad yer werkin

                      Dave, thanks for saving my a$$
                      Gary Campbell
                      Servo Control Upgrades
                      GCnC411@gmail.com
                      https://www.youtube.com/user/Islaww1/videos

                      "There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those that understand binary logic, and those who don't"

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                      • #12

                        Your practical ability is very strong, it is not easy to modify an electronic product.
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                        • #13

                          Fwiw

                          I will just stick with my wireless keyboard, cheap, easy to use and never fails.
                          Keith Hyde, Winchester, VA
                          2016 Stinger 1, 1.7KW HF Spindle HSD
                          Performance Package Pro, Vac, lathe, Aspire 10
                          Former Marine and retired Seabee Master Chief.
                          Furniture is my hobby not my vocation.
                          hyde.consulting@comcast.net

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                          • #14

                            The wireless keyboard is really easy to use, it uses a chip to control it
                            https://www.embedic.com/applications/

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                            • #15

                              I have the Wincnc pendant for the last 8 or so years I absolute live it.
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                              Mick Martin
                              mickmartin3@comcast.net
                              CAMaster Cobra 508 ATC + Recoil + Popup Pins
                              Digitize Touch Probe
                              Wincnc Handheld Serial Keypad + Wireless Pendant
                              Hurricane vacuum
                              WinCNC + Aspire 9.5 + PhotoVCarve + EnRoute 5
                              www.mickmartinwoodworking.com/

                              The search function on the forum is your best friend!

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