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    Hello everyone! I’ve been poking around the forum for a few days now, what an excellent source of info/help.

    My neighbor is relocating and is offering to sell me his Stinger 2 foot by 4 foot. I believe it’s a stinger 1 (no legs, desktop model).

    This thing is built like a rock, he’s had nothing but great things to say about it. I previously had an x carve but had so many issues with the motors/alignment.

    My question for you all, my neighbor says it has an expanded X axis (lathe ready), but he wasn’t sure if I would need to send it back to the factory to get it installed

    If I buy this machine, and later order the recoil lathe, am I able to install myself? Very mechanically inclined, but I realize it’s gotta be absolutely coplanar to the gantry.

    I appreciate anybody that might take the time to answer this question. Also, I believe he purchased the machine in 2017, FTC and Z pneumatic assist. I feel his price of $8K is fair, all maintenance done, very clean well maintained machine. Am I correct? Thanks again,

    Daniel
  • #2

    Sounds like fun, years ago i put my own lathe on, call camaster monday on this there are others here who have done this

    Welcome aboard
    James McGrew
    CAMaster ATC 508
    The principle of Measure twice cut once has not been replaced by a CNC

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    • #3

      Originally posted by james mcgrew View Post
      Sounds like fun, years ago i put my own lathe on, call camaster monday on this there are others here who have done this

      Welcome aboard
      Thanks James. I appreciate your response, I’ll give them a call next week!

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      • #4

        I would call with the serial number if able. Probably easiest way for them to look up records.
        Charlie L
        Stinger II, 48 by 48, 1.7 kW Spindle, FTC + Laser + Recoil + Vacuum, July 2012
        WinCNC 2.5.03, Aspire, PhotoVCarve, Windows 7 Pro SP1

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        • #5

          Talk to Camaster. If the machine is recoil ready, they should be able to just sell and send out the unit you need. One thing...while it's called a lathe, it's not a "spinny thing" type lathe that is normally used in woodworking. The Recoil Lathe is an ornamental, indexing lathe which is used primarily to do things like wrap a 3D image around a blank that's anywhere between round and square and to create symmetrical components like cabriole legs, etc. Those are just two examples. It's not really intended for making things like bowls and symmetrical spindles. A normal wood lathe is better for that.
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          Jim Becker

          SR-44 (2018), 1.7kw spindle, Performance Premium, USB, Keypad, T-Slot table (y-axis configuration), WinCNC, VCarve Pro upgraded to Aspire

          Non CNC stuff...

          SCM/Minimax
          Festool "a good collection"
          Stubby - lathe
          Oneida Cyclone
          more...

          Retired from full time work in the telecom industry 9/2017
          Occasional commission work for others, but mostly for me...furniture/tack trunks/signage/guitars
          Located Bucks County PA

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          • #6

            Originally posted by Jim Becker View Post
            Talk to Camaster. If the machine is recoil ready, they should be able to just sell and send out the unit you need. One thing...while it's called a lathe, it's not a "spinny thing" type lathe that is normally used in woodworking. The Recoil Lathe is an ornamental, indexing lathe which is used primarily to do things like wrap a 3D image around a blank that's anywhere between round and square and to create symmetrical components like cabriole legs, etc. Those are just two examples. It's not really intended for making things like bowls and symmetrical spindles. A normal wood lathe is better for that.
            Jim,

            Thanks for the info. Question.

            In my design program (aspire 9.0) can I create a 3d surface, any type text, textures etc

            then switch around motor outputs on WinCNC to rotate the lathe instead of the x axis motors? Essentially, WinCNC would be thinking it is doing a regular x y z job, but instead of moving the gantry left and right it would be rotating the lathe?

            This is easy to do on Mach 3. I simply change the motor outputs on settings.

            thank you so much!
            Dan

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            • #7

              I do not believe that's how the indexing lathe interface was designed. You can ask Camaster, however. And I don't believe you need to do that for what you want to do...Aspire 9.x has features to support fourth axis which your machine already has if it's recoil ready as you note.
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              Jim Becker

              SR-44 (2018), 1.7kw spindle, Performance Premium, USB, Keypad, T-Slot table (y-axis configuration), WinCNC, VCarve Pro upgraded to Aspire

              Non CNC stuff...

              SCM/Minimax
              Festool "a good collection"
              Stubby - lathe
              Oneida Cyclone
              more...

              Retired from full time work in the telecom industry 9/2017
              Occasional commission work for others, but mostly for me...furniture/tack trunks/signage/guitars
              Located Bucks County PA

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              • #8

                Right.
                The switching described is essential done in software by using a different post processor for rotary work. It switches X to A.
                Charlie L
                Stinger II, 48 by 48, 1.7 kW Spindle, FTC + Laser + Recoil + Vacuum, July 2012
                WinCNC 2.5.03, Aspire, PhotoVCarve, Windows 7 Pro SP1

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                • #9

                  Pretty sure you can install it yourself. Even if you get it factory installed, you'll probably still have to tweak it a little to make it exactly coplanar to the Y and Z axis.
                  Russell Crawford
                  Cobra 408 ATC with recoil
                  Alberta, Canada
                  www.cherryleaf-rustle.com

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                  • #10

                    Yea, for an ornamental lathe add to a "recoil-ready" Camaster machine, it's DYI for the physical install, AFAIK. There may need to be a remote session with a tech for software tweaks like with a new machine.
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                    Jim Becker

                    SR-44 (2018), 1.7kw spindle, Performance Premium, USB, Keypad, T-Slot table (y-axis configuration), WinCNC, VCarve Pro upgraded to Aspire

                    Non CNC stuff...

                    SCM/Minimax
                    Festool "a good collection"
                    Stubby - lathe
                    Oneida Cyclone
                    more...

                    Retired from full time work in the telecom industry 9/2017
                    Occasional commission work for others, but mostly for me...furniture/tack trunks/signage/guitars
                    Located Bucks County PA

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                    • #11

                      Originally posted by Charlie_L View Post
                      Right.
                      The switching described is essential done in software by using a different post processor for rotary work. It switches X to A.
                      hi Charlie,

                      im trying to get my used camaster lathe working on my stinger 24 that’s lathe ready. Can you, or anyone, send me a screen shot of their INI file so I can see how it’s programmed? I’m new to wincnc but used mach 3 for 6 or 7 years, not new to CNC . Thanks

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                      • #12

                        Correct me if I'm wrong, but if the machine is "Recoil Ready", perhaps the programming is already in WinCNC from the factory, but getting screen scrapes of the relevant areas of the INI file may be helpful as some things may be commented out. I'm guessing on that, however.
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                        Jim Becker

                        SR-44 (2018), 1.7kw spindle, Performance Premium, USB, Keypad, T-Slot table (y-axis configuration), WinCNC, VCarve Pro upgraded to Aspire

                        Non CNC stuff...

                        SCM/Minimax
                        Festool "a good collection"
                        Stubby - lathe
                        Oneida Cyclone
                        more...

                        Retired from full time work in the telecom industry 9/2017
                        Occasional commission work for others, but mostly for me...furniture/tack trunks/signage/guitars
                        Located Bucks County PA

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                        • #13

                          A.Blair,
                          I sent you a pm
                          Charlie L
                          Stinger II, 48 by 48, 1.7 kW Spindle, FTC + Laser + Recoil + Vacuum, July 2012
                          WinCNC 2.5.03, Aspire, PhotoVCarve, Windows 7 Pro SP1

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