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    So I’m trying to decide on the way I want to finish this. I’m leaning towards the “Sophisticated Finishes” rust look. Has anyone ever done this? I saw Jimmy Diresta do something similar on an MDF sign, ill link the video below. I want that “out on the weather for 50 years iron look.” Plus my detail painting leaves much to be desired.


    https://youtu.be/Wrb2vUJjG2k
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    Bob Walters
    Lebanon, Ohio

    2016 Stinger II SR-44
    3.0 kW Spindle
    Vectric VCarve Pro 10.xx

    www.cool-signs.com
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    Bob,
    I use the Sophisticated Finishes all the time..
    Here's an example of the "Rust" finish...
    Not as good as the Sculpt Nouveau product but not as expensive either.

    Michael
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    Michael Mezalick
    Cobra, WINCNC

    3-D Modeling
    https://carveddetails.com

    mm@mezalick.com

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    • #3

      Originally posted by Michael Mezalick View Post
      Bob,
      I use the Sophisticated Finishes all the time..
      Here's an example of the "Rust" finish...
      Not as good as the Sculpt Nouveau product but not as expensive either.

      Michael
      That looks awesome, thanks. How does it react with other paints? Thinking of using one shot and then the rust treatment, what order should I do it in? Can I use an exterior latex with this? That would make my life a bit easier. Don’t know what the acid would do to the paint so now I think I answered my own question....I should do the rust treatment first and then do the paint?

      Thanks again
      Bob Walters
      Lebanon, Ohio

      2016 Stinger II SR-44
      3.0 kW Spindle
      Vectric VCarve Pro 10.xx

      www.cool-signs.com

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      • #4

        Another vote for sculpt nuveau, bronze with some acid highlites. And if you add color..go milky
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        • #5

          Bob,
          It works well with all other paints,,as it's paint with particles of metal ( iron ) suspended in it...
          The " acid" is a simple acidic solution,,could be vinegar...
          It wouldn't affect the paint at all if the paint will well dried..
          As for the order of procedures...it really depends on the end result you want but in most cases I patina ( rust ) last,,,but not always..


          Michael
          Michael Mezalick
          Cobra, WINCNC

          3-D Modeling
          https://carveddetails.com

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          • #6

            Originally posted by Gary Campbell View Post
            Another vote for sculpt nuveau, bronze with some acid highlites. And if you add color..go milky
            I think I am going to go with the sculpt nuveau, have to do some research on what I need. Thanks
            Bob Walters
            Lebanon, Ohio

            2016 Stinger II SR-44
            3.0 kW Spindle
            Vectric VCarve Pro 10.xx

            www.cool-signs.com

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            • #7

              Keith Outten has spoken highly of the Sculpt Nouveau products. I haven't tried them yet. I do think you are on the right track by selecting something that looks like "old metal" for this kind of thing...it's going to look awesome!
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              Jim Becker

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              • #8

                Originally posted by Michael Mezalick View Post
                Bob,
                It works well with all other paints,,as it's paint with particles of metal ( iron ) suspended in it...
                The " acid" is a simple acidic solution,,could be vinegar...
                It wouldn't affect the paint at all if the paint will well dried..
                As for the order of procedures...it really depends on the end result you want but in most cases I patina ( rust ) last,,,but not always..


                Michael
                Awesome, thanks...gonna give it a shot, finger crossed.
                Bob Walters
                Lebanon, Ohio

                2016 Stinger II SR-44
                3.0 kW Spindle
                Vectric VCarve Pro 10.xx

                www.cool-signs.com

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                • #9

                  So I'm about to buy a gallon of the sculpt nouveau "C" bronze coating, it's the one with the hardener. What sold me on it is you can polish it easier then the "B" coating they sell, and I'm also hoping it has a self leveling characteristic so I don't have to worry about brush strokes. I really don't want to put it thru my spray gun, think the cleanup would be a nightmare. Don't even know if my Fuji Mini Mite 4 turbine would spray it that good or even what needle to use, if anyone knows or has tried it let me know. Putting anything with a hardener thru it terrifies me.

                  I'm thinking about the black patina for it. Any suggestions on the patina would be awesome. I'm getting really excited about this, I was kinda sick to my stomach when I thought I was going to have to paint it. After Rodger's class this November my painting fear might be fixed a bit.

                  Thanks for all the advice, glad I asked or I would have never known about sculpt nouveau stuff.
                  Bob Walters
                  Lebanon, Ohio

                  2016 Stinger II SR-44
                  3.0 kW Spindle
                  Vectric VCarve Pro 10.xx

                  www.cool-signs.com

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                  • #10

                    Wonder if one of those cheap electric sprayers that people use for house paint would work well. I have never used one for anything though. But you could toss it if it didn't work.
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                    • #11

                      Try a Critter spray gun. I love mine. Super easy cleanup.

                      https://www.amazon.com/Critter-Spray.../dp/B00006FRPJ
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                      • #12

                        Drop Keith Outten a note and see if he sprays the stuff...I know he has used it for a number of projects as we were speaking about it at the end of last year's Aspire Camp at McGrew's.
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                        Jim Becker

                        SR-44 (2018), 1.7kw spindle, Performance Premium, USB, Keypad, T-Slot table (y-axis configuration), WinCNC, VCarve Pro upgraded to Aspire

                        Non CNC stuff...

                        SCM/Minimax
                        Festool "a good collection"
                        Stubby - lathe
                        Oneida Cyclone
                        more...

                        Retired from full time work in the telecom industry 9/2017
                        Occasional commission work for others, but mostly for me...furniture/tack trunks/signage/guitars
                        Located Bucks County PA

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                        • #13

                          Originally posted by Jim Becker View Post
                          Drop Keith Outten a note and see if he sprays the stuff...I know he has used it for a number of projects as we were speaking about it at the end of last year's Aspire Camp at McGrew's.
                          The more I think about it I think I’m going to just brush it on this first time. I’m really good at over complicating things the first time I do it and end up getting frustrated. .
                          Bob Walters
                          Lebanon, Ohio

                          2016 Stinger II SR-44
                          3.0 kW Spindle
                          Vectric VCarve Pro 10.xx

                          www.cool-signs.com

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                          • #14

                            I found that stippling after brushing gives it more of a cast look. Work in small areas that will stay wet and stipple each section before continuing. It is easy to blend sections and you won't have brush marks showing when you use the patinas. You want to spray your patinas in a fine mist. Use a spray gun with flow turned way down if the spray bottle doesn't work like you want. I brush when doing accents or if I am doing something like a horse statue where the brush marks flow with the design, but I think stippling will work better for what you doing.
                            Scott Besaw
                            CAMaster Stinger II 4x8 FTC
                            Aspire 3.5
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                            • #15

                              Originally posted by smb315 View Post
                              I found that stippling after brushing gives it more of a cast look. Work in small areas that will stay wet and stipple each section before continuing. It is easy to blend sections and you won't have brush marks showing when you use the patinas. You want to spray your patinas in a fine mist. Use a spray gun with flow turned way down if the spray bottle doesn't work like you want. I brush when doing accents or if I am doing something like a horse statue where the brush marks flow with the design, but I think stippling will work better for what you doing.
                              Thanks for the information......my tracking says it’ll be here Friday.
                              Bob Walters
                              Lebanon, Ohio

                              2016 Stinger II SR-44
                              3.0 kW Spindle
                              Vectric VCarve Pro 10.xx

                              www.cool-signs.com

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