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    on saturday i was doing a training session with the x3 machine, we were running a file that i had made the mistake of asking a 1/4 inch bit to cut through the material, the bit cut about 10 feet in cut length and snapped, we removed the bit (seemed warm but not hot) and left the vacuum on to hold the material while we went into my office to rework the pass depth on the file.

    in just a few minutes one of the guys in the shop said there was a fire, on the way to the fire i still did not know what was burning, i thought first to grab a fire extinguisher (they are located in many places and all corners and entrances as well as passages thru the building) we got real lucky time wise.

    while we had removed the bit a small ember had begun to burn, the vacuum gave it wind and direction and no one could see it, about the time someone smelled it it broke throughthe spoil board surface.

    i hope all reading this realize size of machine does not matter, they are made up of two things
    1) electrical parts
    2) parts that create friction

    be careful, pay attention. my x3 is a god send and i would be as hard pressed as any to replace it and or pray i do not burn down the building or worse

    my hope is this will help the new and old cnc'r

    jim mcgrew
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    James McGrew
    CAMaster ATC 508
    The principle of Measure twice cut once has not been replaced by a CNC

    www.mcgrewwoodwork.com

    https://www.facebook.com/pg/Mcgrew-W...=page_internal

    Camera 1 ATC Closeup !
    https://video.nest.com/live/esNTrZ

    fixed 4-27-2020
  • #2

    Glad it wasn't any worse. Could have been. Definitely something to keep in mind when running the vacuum and also dust collection.

    That's two fires with the vacuum. :( Maybe there is a need to treat the mdf with a fire retardant.

    I have seen embers when cutting KOA and not having sufficient feed rate. I was able to cut the router rpm and continue but it was a scary minute to see bright red at the bit.

    Glad you caught it quickly.

    Russ
    Congress is the opposite of Progress

    CAMaster 3050-R with steppers and Gecko 203Vs, Aspire, Mach3

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    • #3

      Fire

      The last fire I had to deel with was on the USS America in 1972. Lagging caught fire. It took 2 days to get it completely out & two months to clean up the mess.

      Glad you caught this in time with so little damage.
      The nation is safest when congress is out.;moon

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      • #4

        USS Albany sixth fleet 1976-79
        James McGrew
        CAMaster ATC 508
        The principle of Measure twice cut once has not been replaced by a CNC

        www.mcgrewwoodwork.com

        https://www.facebook.com/pg/Mcgrew-W...=page_internal

        Camera 1 ATC Closeup !
        https://video.nest.com/live/esNTrZ

        fixed 4-27-2020

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        • #5

          Ya'll are scaring Jaqui !!!!
          www.classicmarineco.com

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          • #6

            bumpity bump

            bump,bump

            want to keep this at the fore front!!
            James McGrew
            CAMaster ATC 508
            The principle of Measure twice cut once has not been replaced by a CNC

            www.mcgrewwoodwork.com

            https://www.facebook.com/pg/Mcgrew-W...=page_internal

            Camera 1 ATC Closeup !
            https://video.nest.com/live/esNTrZ

            fixed 4-27-2020

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            • #7

              More on Fire safety

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OOU...layer_embedded




              http://www.htgsupply.com/Products.asp
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              James McGrew
              CAMaster ATC 508
              The principle of Measure twice cut once has not been replaced by a CNC

              www.mcgrewwoodwork.com

              https://www.facebook.com/pg/Mcgrew-W...=page_internal

              Camera 1 ATC Closeup !
              https://video.nest.com/live/esNTrZ

              fixed 4-27-2020

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              • #8

                That looks interesting Jim,,,Thanks for posting.
                ~M
                Michael Mezalick
                Cobra, WINCNC

                3-D Modeling
                https://carveddetails.com

                mm@mezalick.com

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                • #9

                  at first I got all excited when I saw this single suppression system then I remembered that my entire shop is sprinklered,, still have no business letting the cnc run un attended, now i'd be lyin if I say I don't walk away once in a while, but not far and having caught mine on fire I should still know better...and on another note, to anyone who has ever had one of these "Go Off" under a restaurant hood,, it is Corrosive as Heck !!
                  James McGrew
                  CAMaster ATC 508
                  The principle of Measure twice cut once has not been replaced by a CNC

                  www.mcgrewwoodwork.com

                  https://www.facebook.com/pg/Mcgrew-W...=page_internal

                  Camera 1 ATC Closeup !
                  https://video.nest.com/live/esNTrZ

                  fixed 4-27-2020

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                  • #10

                    Had a deep fat fryer fire on board the USS Frank Cable while I was Mess cranking in the early '90's. As I was covering the fire with a sheet pan the Mess Cook pulled the suppression system and hosed me and the rest of the galley down. I was lucky in that the pan was covering the grease when she pulled the pin other wise I would have been covered in burning grease.

                    We had the entire Cheifs mess covered in that stuff and took two days to get it all cleaned up.
                    https://www.camheads.org/core/images...464%5B1%5D.gif Owner with Recoil



                    Neal Meyers Jr
                    Guyton Ga
                    Aspire 4.0, WinCNC, Rhino, Autocad.

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                    • #11

                      I thought someone was barbequing. Ain't nobody got time for that.


                      Sorry had to go there glad all is OK and the fire was small.
                      Luke Bennett
                      CAMaster CNC Tech
                      www.camaster.com

                      Frankenstinger 25x48 custom machine

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                      • #12

                        Thanks Jim for posting, that helps us newbies pay a little ( a lot) more attention!
                        God Bless,
                        James & Zelma (Psalm 18:2)
                        "Inscriptions Of The Heart"
                        Texas

                        ~A man is only as good as his word~

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                        • #13

                          Thanks for posting. It is easy to get complacent and take things for granted. It never hurts to be reminded. That could sure be a wake up call.
                          Al Nix
                          rsgraphics@surfsouth.com
                          Stinger III, FTC, 8"Z
                          1.7 KW Spindle, Laser
                          WINCNC, Aspire
                          40W GCC Laser
                          Wide Format printer, cutter & Laminator
                          Adel, GA

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                          • #14

                            Just a reminder of what it could be.
                            Here's my spindle,,,,with the hole thru the spoilboard,,,,,black smoke everywhere....

                            Oh Ya !

                            Michael
                            Attached Files
                            Michael Mezalick
                            Cobra, WINCNC

                            3-D Modeling
                            https://carveddetails.com

                            mm@mezalick.com

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                            • #15

                              Mike made me fell soooo much better after he did that !!
                              James McGrew
                              CAMaster ATC 508
                              The principle of Measure twice cut once has not been replaced by a CNC

                              www.mcgrewwoodwork.com

                              https://www.facebook.com/pg/Mcgrew-W...=page_internal

                              Camera 1 ATC Closeup !
                              https://video.nest.com/live/esNTrZ

                              fixed 4-27-2020

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